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Old 06-29-2009, 07:55 PM
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Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

(June 29, 2009 - Chandler, AZ) It is with great trepidation and concern that we find ourselves forced to deal with an issue that we never felt we would be faced with in our racing career, and as a result of the decision of the LOORRS tech officials to disqualify Austin Kimbrell based on his Weller Racing motor exceeding the 800cc limit for the Unlimited UTV class, we are now forced to look within our own processes to try to find what went wrong – not only in an effort to ensure that we never find ourselves in this situation again, but also to ensure that our current and future customers will forever retain the trust they have put into us throughout the years.

Racing is our way of life, and nothing fulfills us more than being able to go to battle with truly great competitors; and the only way this can BE truly fulfilling, is if that competition is always fair. Because of this belief, we want to express our agreement and full support of LOORRS’ decision to tear down the top three motors in the Unlimited UTV class. We feel that this is necessary, and will keep everyone honest, while also helping to dispel any rumors of other teams cheating. We have felt this should be done for a very long time, and are happy to see it finally happening now.

We also understand how it must look to anyone who is not in the motor building business to see that a racer is disqualified due to exceeding a set cc limit. We were rocked to the core when we were informed by LOORRS tech officials that Kimbrell’s motor was found to be 1.4 cc’s over the 800cc limit. This discrepancy was found on the front cylinder, and it is practically immeasurable. This was evident by the fact that even the LOORRS tech’s testing mechanism had to be rechecked 5 times, because they were getting readings varying over 2mm difference. While we are not fully convinced with whom the discrepancy actually lies, we will side with LOORRS, and will build the necessary cushion in the future to account for this variation. We understand that rules are rules, and must be enforced – after all, it just makes for better racing.

Again, we want to stress that we are competitors to the core, but we are only satisfied by a truly fair competition. We support LOORRS and their decision, and will make any and all necessary adjustments to our build processes to ensure that this will never be an issue again. We also support our racers, and we know that Austin Kimbrell drove his heart out, and will be on the podium again shortly with a motor that is undeniably within the regulatory limits.

Thank you to all of our loyal customers, our friends, our race families and our fans for your support throughout the years. We are still a young company, and we are learning as we grow – we are not immune to mistakes, and we can only hope that as we strive to minimize those mistakes, that the faith you all have in our business, our character, and our intentions stays true.

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Jason and Corry Weller – Weller Racing, LLC
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:17 PM
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Very tough situation. Stand up response.
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Old 06-29-2009, 08:18 PM
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I'm very disasopinted to hear that a racing organization would make a decision like this. 1.4 cc over is not measurable at the track anyway. Did they pull the pistons or was it a simple bore and stroke measurement. That is .175%, unmeasurable using the techniques and tools they had. They (LOORS) should be ashamed for putting anyone through something like this. It shows what rookie promoters they really are.

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Old 06-29-2009, 09:14 PM
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Default Re: Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

that crazy talk. must have gone by the bore and stroke. congrats AUSTIN
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Old 06-29-2009, 09:33 PM
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thank you every one
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Default Re: Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

Well when you have an engine builder that can make 22hp per cc....

Seriously though, 1.4 cc, that is why CORR had an unofficial wiggle room of I believe .5% or 804cc, to eliminate the chance of human error.

So I did some math, with out going into to too much detail it appears this has come down to .0768mm, or .003 of an inch......unless I missed something

So, for what its worth, we firmly stand behind the Weller’s and Weller Racing, Jason has never been anything less than honest and professional while doing the engine work on my sons car. I appreciate the work this year and look forward to our new ????? engine build for next year.

If anything comes from this unfortunate event I hope it further defines the rule as to allow for minimal mechanical deviations and the human factor when doing field measurements.

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Old 06-29-2009, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

Were the engines pumped? Was the bore/stroke measured? How was this determined? Did they use calipers? Micrometers?

Not looking to stir the pot or cause controversy here. For those that don't know, the displacement has been an issue for us engine builders for a while.

The class rules are 800cc limit.
Usually, pistons are made in "normal' increments of size, either millimeters, or inches. In the case of the Teryx, a common bore size would be 90mm, which makes the engine the familar 840cc that many use in their recreational cars.
An 88mm bore would make the engine 803cc. This would be convenient for engine builders, however, it is over the displacement limit. When you start to look at bore sizes "just below" 88mm, to meet the race rule, things like piston ring availability become an issue.

I'll be interested to learn more about the details so we can all learn from this situation.

Just an FYI. Sorry to hear this.
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

Chris

They used the same method as the Karts . Actual measurement of bore and stroke. It is my understanding they all passed.

To the Underground at large

As stated by others in this thread ,we agree and do not believe the oversize engine is why Austin won. And I honestly feel for the young man because I don't believe there was "INTENT" to cheat . But rules are there for a reason. It also begs the question if this was Chad's motor being DQ'd would you all be singing the same tune.

Kudo's to Wellers for their stand up response.When faced with this type of situation you really have no choice but stand up and face the music.
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Old 06-30-2009, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

I guess I will be the first to say it. Here we go. If it was chads motor, I would say you guys wanted to get as much as you could out of the motor hoping you wouldn't get caught. I know how much chad hates to lose. Hate me for saying the truth but hey you asked.

And if anybody gets mad off of this post. Sorry Just my feelings from old politics.
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Old 06-30-2009, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: Weller Racing responds to Kimbrell’s DQ at LOORRS Round 6

every one lets not start this please??


grant if it was chads motor i would be the first to say that I truly believe you guys were not trying to cheat if it was 1.4 cc's over. Truly we talked about this in my racing family and real family already. We asked our selfs the same question what if funco or RJ was in this position and we all said we would stand behind them if it was. but it isnt lol rules are rules now if it was an 840 cc i would have to say it would be cheating.

and i hope if i had an 840cc people would be saying i was cheating and not just be on my side because people like me and not be on funco's side. Chad is a great racer every one i love racing against him it all ways makes for a fun race.

I guess what im trying to say is that lets not start taking sides like i can see how this can turn out funco is a great race team and so is every one eles that races against us. so please lets not start with taking sides on who people like better thank you very much.



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