Arctic Cat Prowler XTZ 1000 Build: Permission to Launch [Archive] - UTVUnderground.Com

Hapa

01-26-2009, 06:05 PM

Permission to Launch as if you guys had a choice:cool:

My cat is off getting a Ron Woods exhaust, Intake and fuel controller. Of-course all the tunning and dialing in are done by The Pro Shop.

I think Ron Woods will r&d the intake and exhausts and John at the Pro Shop dials it in with the fuel controller.

What they do is dyno the cat first, but before they do this The Pro Shop will check the air cleaner and the rest of the cat to makes sure they get a fair and accurate dyno run. Then they send it to Ron Woods in Costa Mesa, where he builds a few different prototypes. They then go back to the Pro Shop and dyno and dial in each different proto type exhaust and intake.

Then they pick the pipe and intake set up that works the best.

This is no small job, it takes a while and all the time they are looking at torque curves and listing to the sound to make sure they get good power without being ridiculously loud.

So by Presidents day i hope I can test the new performance myself.

This is the best part! These cats are pretty corked up, increase in hp is always pipe dreams to me. I am trying to be realistic so i expect 5 hp gain or so, But I have heard from reliable people that I could see up to 15 to 20hp gain because of how corked up these cats engines are. like I said pipe dreams. Major Thanks go to John and crew at the Pro Shop and Ron Woods!!!

JoeyD23

01-26-2009, 06:07 PM

Ricky let me be the first to say that we are thrilled to have you post your build over here!! We cant wait to see what is done to this AC over the next few weeks/months!! You know the Pro SHop is going to pimp that motor out!!

Hapa

01-26-2009, 06:07 PM

Hot off the press, made John fax it to me i wanted to see it so bad!

Well i got a Dyno print out for the stock XTZ 1000. The problem is the hp is not accurate. Need dyno tires for the cat and some other adjustments to the dyno?

But the numbers are not as important as the curve and the tuning. The XTZ 1000 was bouncing off the rev limiter i think. The tires did not fit the dyno perfect, john is getting dyno tires for the Cat. But the top end mph numbers are probably correct.

The dyno print out of the 09 Arctic Cat XTZ 1000 is laid over a
stock 08 Rhino 700 print out

this will give you the idea of the difference in power stock. WOW:eek:

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/XTZ1000stockdyno.png

JoeyD23

01-26-2009, 06:10 PM

DAMN!!! That motor is serius!!

Hapa

01-26-2009, 06:20 PM

I figure i should put some before pics up now, because this is going to change fast. Here is what the cat is supposed to look like new.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/prowlertalk/ATV_02.jpg

Here is what mine looked like new, i cut it off the trailer and it landed on all four ready to go.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/crash%20pics/pics013.jpg

JoeyD23

01-26-2009, 06:33 PM

damn, you got so lucky the kitty came out of that wreck w/ only scratches...not to discredit your lives of course, but thank god the kitty is ok!!

Hapa

01-26-2009, 07:43 PM

Well the news just keeps getting better!!!! My 09 Arctic Cat XTZ 1000 will be riding on Magnum Long Travel!!!!!:D Dano and i put it in ink today!!!!

I have talked to several really good Long travel builders out there. And i had a bunch of really good offers from great companies. I got great advice and am really happy with what Magnum is going to do for my cat!! I'm thinking 70 plus through the whoops and some big air this summer. Dano; I printed the Prowler XTZ Specs, and that is all the help i can be. lol Cant wait!

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/XTZ1000SpecSheet.png

Wasatch Quad

01-26-2009, 09:01 PM

Sweeettt!
I can't wait to see this build as it goes.

Woods knows thier stuff. Had a DS650 with the stage 1, huge difference from stock.

Jeepinbeav

01-26-2009, 09:46 PM

i heard also those cat motors are corked up those are some impressive numbers for stock at the wheels, so is fixing the rhino on hold or working out isurance crap?

JoeyD23

01-27-2009, 07:00 AM

MAGNUM OFFROAD

01-27-2009, 08:57 AM

Actually, next year will be. After I squeeze the XTZ 1000 into my Rhino this summer. Look out now!!!

JoeyD23

01-27-2009, 09:01 AM

I thought you were keeping that a secret?? Spillin the beans left and right!! LOL

GREGC

01-27-2009, 09:09 AM

i can't wait to see all these projects finished. There are going to be some bad mo fo's on the summer runs this year!!

Hapa

01-27-2009, 09:12 AM

i heard also those cat motors are corked up those are some impressive numbers for stock at the wheels, so is fixing the rhino on hold or working out isurance crap?

The Rhino quote is with the Insurance adjusters. Rhino build coming soon.

Bi polar Jim, told me the XTZ 1000 are closer to 87hp stock give or take.

If you dont know Bi Polar they took 1st and 2nd in the 2008 Baja 1000 riding Arctic Cats.

JoeyD23

01-27-2009, 09:15 AM

You can view lots of pics of Bi Polars Baja 1000 winning Cat here at UTVGuide.Net........

http://www.utvguide.net/utv_of_the_month_november2008.htm

RICHIEB

01-27-2009, 03:31 PM

The Rhino quote is with the Insurance adjusters. Rhino build coming soon.

Bi polar Jim, told me the XTZ 1000 are closer to 87hp stock give or take.

If you dont know Bi Polar they took 1st and 2nd in the 2008 Baja 1000 riding Arctic Cats.

So what should they be making at the wheels stock.That dyno print out cant be right!

Kracker

01-27-2009, 05:06 PM

Going to be interesting fo sho.

Hapa

01-28-2009, 08:47 AM

So what should they be making at the wheels stock.That dyno print out cant be right!

once i get it dialed in i will get a accurate Dyno print out. Can only guess right now. Rotax 800 will put 53.6 hp or so to the wheels. So i am hoping for 70 hp plus to the wheels, we will have to see. i will probably be at the Sand Drags over v-day

Hapa

02-03-2009, 08:55 PM

Here is all i have so far, looks like it is coming along.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01655.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01656.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01657.jpg

bean dip

02-03-2009, 10:54 PM

Has Magnum started working on it yet, or is this at your home?

powerplay

02-04-2009, 04:56 AM

Just tto kinda put things in perspective a little ..My Sandlimo rail has a 450 hp ls series engine..It dynoed at 443 HP @ the crank & 319 to the wheels..b I weigh in @ just over 3K lbs ..Horse power to weight ratio sounds spot on on this cool kat...project.....Gonna wear a helmet??? :D I would.LOL!! safety first.

Hapa

02-04-2009, 06:03 AM

Has Magnum started working on it yet, or is this at your home?

The kitty is at Ron Woods still, I willget it backnext week and test it at Glamis, I will give feed back to The Pro Shop and Ron Woods. I should get the Cat at Dano's by the 17th or so. Owe ya Dano forgot to call ya and tell ya, its almost ready to get some legs:D

Just tto kinda put things in perspective a little ..My Sandlimo rail has a 450 hp ls series engine..It dynoed at 443 HP @ the crank & 319 to the wheels..b I weigh in @ just over 3K lbs ..Horse power to weight ratio sounds spot on on this cool kat...project.....Gonna wear a helmet??? :D I would.LOL!! safety first.

Thanks PP, this is the first Utv that skerd me, first time I got on it. i took off from that accident and looked down doing 73mph and it was pretty fast. Then I remembered I still needed to break it in so I backed off. Ya it does real good for stock, but none of you should buy one they suck;)

JoeyD23

02-04-2009, 07:24 AM

LOL...Thanks for posting Ricky!! Cant wait to see this baby evolve!!! BTW my build can begin! Seats came in from PRP yesterday FINALLY!!!

Hapa

02-04-2009, 07:16 PM

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01662.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01661.jpg

JoeyD23

02-04-2009, 07:27 PM

Hapa

02-05-2009, 09:22 AM

ahhhhh snaps!!!! Lookin sick!!

Ricky you got something worked out for your seats yet??? UTVUnderground might be getting set up with MasterCraft....Maybe we can get them to extend a UTVUnderground special and get you set up with some bad azz seats!!!

That would be sick!! i run PRP seats in my Rhino and i was just going to go back there. I don't know much about seats, I will be glad to flight test the MasterCraft seats!!!
As long as the are approved by the Federal Aviation Association (FAA) i am fine.

Do they have matching seat belts?

The only things i still must have are.
Seats
Seat belts
Paddles
Doors
Cage
Radio

Cant wait to get Magnum all medieval on my Rhino!

RuggedRadios

02-05-2009, 09:36 AM

Awesome build so far!

We really dont like PRP Seats here, nothing but bad experiences with their product.

GET SET UP WITH MASTERCRAFTTT!

JoeyD23

02-05-2009, 10:54 AM

And set up with a Rugged Radio!!!

That sucks to hear about PRP....I had to go with them due to them being the only ones with Preemy and pre teen sizes..........but Mastercraft has some nice chit!!

GREGC

02-05-2009, 01:21 PM

Taylor

02-05-2009, 01:40 PM

That would be sick!! i run PRP seats in my Rhino and i was just going to go back there. I don't know much about seats, I will be glad to flight test the MasterCraft seats!!!
As long as the are approved by the Federal Aviation Association (FAA) i am fine.

Do they have matching seat belts?

The only things i still must have are.
Seats
Seat belts
Paddles
Doors
Cage
Radio

Cant wait to get Magnum all medieval on my Rhino!

and night vision?
dont forget the bright-bright......

MexicanStuntman

02-06-2009, 01:45 AM

First off, I am glad that you were okay... Second, HURRY UP WITH THE BUILD AND PICS!!! I'm sitting here plucking out all of my back hair waiting for more-more-more!!!

Crowdog

02-06-2009, 07:32 AM

When I looked at the headers on the 1000 my first thought was that they were plenty big from the factory. Is Ron Woods just going to do slip-ons or are they doing a full exhaust?

Hapa

02-06-2009, 08:59 AM

And set up with a Rugged Radio!!!

That sucks to hear about PRP....I had to go with them due to them being the only ones with Preemy and pre teen sizes..........but Mastercraft has some nice chit!!
i want to look at the MasterCraft seats, Who do i talk to about the seats!
and night vision?
dont forget the bright-bright......

yes the light Blake is coming to see you, he should pick up my light for me. What do you need a CC? Taylor i will call you.

Hapa

02-06-2009, 09:04 AM

When I looked at the headers on the 1000 my first thought was that they were plenty big from the factory. Is Ron Woods just going to do slip-ons or are they doing a full exhaust?

i think they will be testing a couple different set ups, I am not sure what they have planned. the dual exhaust was a nice surprise fo me. :)

Taylor

02-06-2009, 09:38 AM

yes the light Blake is coming to see you, he should pick up my light for me. What do you need a CC? Taylor i will call you.[/QUOTE]

that will work, call me with your CC, whats your limit? I do have creative control over the lighting project right.............this thing is going to look like a burning vw engine block when I am done with it......

T

JoeyD23

02-06-2009, 09:53 AM

LOL!!!!

Rick, I am waiting to hear back from Robbie (owner) at MasterCraft. Give me a few days. Otherwise I can get you the big boy deal at ORW and I am sure Brian at BRP can do you up right as well!!

Hapa

02-06-2009, 09:55 AM

Aww those were the days!!! Comp Hill would be lit up by Vw blocks burning all over. i could ride my two wheeler with no head light and the hill was lit up like day time.:D

i will call but I want the light that can take a bazooka shot and still work. And when Blake gets there can you hit him upside the head with my light and get it on film for me?;) He has a head like a rock, good quality control :)

Hapa

02-06-2009, 09:57 AM

LOL!!!!
Rick, I am waiting to hear back from Robbie (owner) at MasterCraft. Give me a few days. Otherwise I can get you the big boy deal at ORW and I am sure Brian at BRP can do you up right as well!!

Thanks Joey, i will send the pictures of my wife over later:p

JoeyD23

02-06-2009, 10:04 AM

hahahahaha....your too good!!!

Hapa

02-06-2009, 04:26 PM

Kinda hoping they will leave the phone number off the finished product lol
Here are some pics
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01667.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01666.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01664.jpg

JoeyD23

02-06-2009, 07:40 PM

that exhaust is lookin SICK!

Hapa

02-09-2009, 11:07 AM

How about a little staker intake?

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/DSC01668.jpg
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Taylor

02-09-2009, 11:19 AM

Blake is not coming, weather sucks for filming. I am getting ready to pack up one of your lights, see pics. I just have to hit it with the Sharpie a couple of times. The wrenches are not included.

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/tat2max/_MG_9759email.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj112/tat2max/afterfontonemail.jpg

Hapa

02-09-2009, 11:27 AM

Ya Blake was just rolling into Glamis yesterday when i was leaving. i wll call you, we will just have to ship the light to me.
:)

Hapa

02-10-2009, 06:43 PM

The Prowler is all running and tuned for Glamis.

truth is the tires were falling apart on the Dyno. They got some good tuning done, which was the goal, and then they shut it down to save the tires. Rubber was flying everywhere according to John. probably looked pretty funny.

John needs to get Arctic Cat Dyno tires.

JoeyD23

02-10-2009, 06:47 PM

Right on Ricky!!! IT is awesome watching this thing progress!! YOu need to get an incar camera!! I just won a sick one on EBay for $107!!!!

Hapa

02-11-2009, 08:52 AM

got a incar camera, will use it this weekend, lots of pics when i get home.

drewallen42

02-11-2009, 11:52 AM

Right on Ricky!!! IT is awesome watching this thing progress!! YOu need to get an incar camera!! I just won a sick one on EBay for $107!!!!

Which one? I'm in the market.

JoeyD23

02-11-2009, 12:57 PM

This one!! Its sick........Wide angle!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI..dll?ViewItem&item=270337363209

Hapa

02-11-2009, 07:32 PM

Picked up the Prowler today, The thing sounds like a Harley lol! It does straight burn outs with those big azz tires on it. Huge difference in power! Wow

Ron Woods and The Pro Shop really hooked me up!!!

Max Powers has video, so now he has been ratted out and must figure out that camera and post the videos!! I haven't seen them yet

This is a bolt on kit!! Just some minor tunning! No feul controller needed.

Hapa

02-11-2009, 07:35 PM

Right on Ricky!!! IT is awesome watching this thing progress!! YOu need to get an incar camera!! I just won a sick one on EBay for $107!!!!

This is my incar camera worn as a helmet cam, shots of wash 6 last Sunday
click on the link pretty cool software included. Not as easyas Mac.

http://share.vio-pov.com/videoManager/play.php?file=MzAxMC81MjQwLmZsdl41MjQ4XnJpY2thbGdl ckBhdHQubmV0

JoeyD23

02-11-2009, 07:36 PM

That is awesome Rick!!! I cant wait to see this thing run!!!

Hapa

02-12-2009, 08:51 AM

more to come soon

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k49/daseahag/th_MVI_0536.jpg (http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k49/daseahag/?action=view&current=MVI_0536.flv)

JoeyD23

02-12-2009, 08:56 AM

so burly!!!! LOL That thing is going to be sick!

Hapa

03-02-2009, 05:22 PM

Did some tire testing in Glamis this weekend.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/pics005-1.jpg
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Hapa

03-02-2009, 05:26 PM

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/th_pics045.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/?action=view&current=pics045.flv)
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http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/th_pics047.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/?action=view&current=pics047.flv)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/pics030.jpg

Thanks to Mark and The Pro Shop!!!
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Arctic%20CAt/pics031.jpg

Double Trouble Hooks

03-02-2009, 05:29 PM

so what paddle worked best?

JoeyD23

03-02-2009, 07:57 PM

Damn! Whats john packing in his Rhino Rick?? LOL How is the kitty runnning???

max powers

03-03-2009, 07:04 AM

Damn! Whats john packing in his Rhino Rick?? LOL How is the kitty runnning???

john is running a 686 on 91 pump gas, 10.5 to 1 piston and some head work
rick's kitty needs a fuel controller, it was running lean until we restricted the intake, then she woke up. It is getting tuned this week. I sat in the passenger seat and Had so much fun it's redonculous.
Never thought I would enjoy sitting bitch in a utv, but when you bunny hop it off of whoops and it throws your head backwhen you throttle it,you can;t help but smile.:D

JoeyD23

03-03-2009, 07:55 AM

Thats so bad azz!!!!!!!!

s2k1

03-03-2009, 10:18 AM

so what paddle worked best?
So what was the answer to this question???

max powers

03-03-2009, 06:34 PM

So what was the answer to this question???

skat trak extreme 8 paddle, could use a 9 for a little more bite

JoeyD23

03-03-2009, 06:39 PM

Good stuff!! Thanks Mark!!

RuggedRadios

03-08-2009, 12:31 PM

Need some updates on this thing! Im about to pick one up I think.

Hapa

03-10-2009, 10:05 AM

Sorry guys i have not been here to update, Ok I will be running these rims with 9 paddles and buffs up front. These are 8 inch wide front and back so it will look beefy I am sure. It was the price that did it for this choice as much as anything.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/prowlertalk/DIABLO-BLACK.gif

My cat is running now, The pro Shop is doing the head gasket and some other maintenance. John will also be installing a fuel controller.

The end of the month it goes in for LT, And i just penciled a deal with a vendor to do the doors, cage, roof, seat drop, seats, belts, bed delete, and a bunch of other stuff he wants to do. again the price was right so i told him what ever he wants to do.

So in less than 2 months i should have new build completed on the AC and i will have my wifes Rhino Hapa totally rebuilt. Full custom paint, HCR spindles, gear one rack, pro shop 686, Ron woods of course. Thinking about powder coating the new frame:cool: I am more excited about the Rhino than the Cat right now? WTF I know I don't get it either just being honest. I love that Rhino!

Actually trying to finish both builds at the same time! High likely hood right now I will be rocking two brand new show UTV's that will out perform most out there. I will be cruising the dunes with two middle fingers straight up!

waytay

03-10-2009, 10:33 AM

with fingers straight up huh?? my douglas are 8 wide on the teryx!

cool wife will be happy!

Hapa

03-10-2009, 10:34 AM

with fingers straight up huh?? my douglas are 8 wide on the teryx!

cool wife will be happy!

two finger, both hands driving with knees:D

Double Trouble Hooks

03-10-2009, 10:37 AM

sounds good rick, love the wheels!

RuggedRadios

03-10-2009, 11:05 AM

Sweet. But uh oh.... Headgasket on the AC already? Why?

JoeyD23

03-10-2009, 02:35 PM

Right on Rick!!! Thanks for the update! Those wheels look nice!!

Hapa

03-10-2009, 07:01 PM

Sweet. But uh oh.... Headgasket on the AC already? Why?

There have been a couple of cats that have overheated when ridden hard in the dunes. Mine was one of them, I was running lien and made it hot with my exhaust and intake. So we are adding the fuel controller and doing a head gasket and some other maintence just to be safe. long story

Mopar

03-10-2009, 07:06 PM

Hapa

03-10-2009, 07:37 PM

Hapa rhino never overheated..... :(

Not ever!!!! DOnt think I havent been thinking about that!

Well I have good nes also, I quit my job Monday so I went a spent some money.

I ordered up some parts today. I ordered a a couple of the baddest ass lights from Taylor from Rigid. I got a 40" "E" Series High Intensity L.E.D. Light Bar and a 10" for the front bumper, this one will be amber for dusty nights. This isn't out yet so keep my secret lol I think i get the one off his jeep;)

Taylor is really cool and easy to get solutions from. i told him what I needed and he set me up!

http://www.rigidindustries.com/default.asp

I also called Nick at UTVCRAP an ordered the alternators for my Cat and my Rhino. I also ordered the rest of the baling billet stuff for the cat. If things go well i will drop it off for long travel end of the month. I guess i can take my time a little on this thing. I will have all summer to work on it.

Mopar

03-10-2009, 07:48 PM

How is quittin your job good news?!?! damn you so crazy.....

waytay

03-11-2009, 06:22 AM

How is quittin your job good news?!?! damn you so crazy.....

They were making him show up by ten and work till atleast two, it was getting kinda tough:D:D

KJSmith84

03-11-2009, 07:35 AM

There have been a couple of cats that have overheated when ridden hard in the dunes. Mine was one of them, I was running lien and made it hot with my exhaust and intake. So we are adding the fuel controller and doing a head gasket and some other maintence just to be safe. long story

that sucks-
well lets hope it isnt that bad-
thats why I wondering about the fuel controler because i knew the intake and exhaust was going to make it way lean.
I thought you said that it was the right AFR???

max powers

03-11-2009, 08:40 AM

that sucks-
well lets hope it isnt that bad-
thats why I wondering about the fuel controler because i knew the intake and exhaust was going to make it way lean.
I thought you said that it was the right AFR???

Guess you missed the post where I told you, you were right about it not adjusting for the add-ons?? If you had seen it, we would see your head swell up a little more.:D

KJSmith84

03-11-2009, 09:17 AM

Guess you missed the post where I told you, you were right about it not adjusting for the add-ons?? If you had seen it, we would see your head swell up a little more.:D

i saw that post. i didnt know that it messed with the engine that bad- I just that it wasnt running right????
Im not trying to say I told you so. thats not my style. thats sucks about the motor.
I was told time and time again that the afr was good. I was just trying to help not to be right about it.
that is why I was asking about it.

Hapa

03-11-2009, 01:34 PM

It really ran right all the way through on Flat ground. I could go up to 65 plus real easy. But as soon as I put a big load on it like Olds and held it wide open for 15 seconds it would lien out and loose power. I think this is what John and Ron expected. they seemed really surprised when it ran right the first few tests.

Hapa

03-27-2009, 07:27 PM

Well I guess i will post an update, Good bad or ugly i will let you guys know what is going on.

We don't have all the specs we need to map the fuel controller. We will have it soon, we also will have dyno tires soon. that will help to get a good couple of runs that we need.

We tried to estimate a richer setup. and it ran good, just not as good as it should.

So I am going back to stock and make sure the engine is running good. We will get the info we need and dial it in.

I have the lights, radios, rims and tires, bling billet everything. The cage and doors will be on in April as well as long travel at least started.

I have two full builds going on right now, They will be done about the same time, Both rides will have the best parts i can find so the thing I am really looking to find out is. Which ride will I like to drive the most?

JoeyD23

03-27-2009, 07:57 PM

I cant wait to see both!! Keep at it....bumps in the road will only make it that much sweeter once its complete!!

Hapa

03-27-2009, 09:59 PM

Yep, got to keep the positive attitude, I am working with and communicating and planning my build with the best in the business.
John
Chris
Mike
Johnny
Jordan
Taylor
Mark
Dano
Ron

everybody else thanks for the help if i havent said it lately!

Double Trouble Hooks

03-27-2009, 10:28 PM

still gonna get w/me on the top secret cuts..lol

Hapa

03-28-2009, 04:52 PM

still gonna get w/me on the top secret cuts..lol

I will call you in the next week or so. make a game plan! Thanks Dorian

Hapa

05-22-2009, 04:36 PM

Sorry I havent posted many pics here latly guys. I have some spy photos here of My Rhino cage and frame.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/pics036.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/pics039.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/pics040.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/pics041.jpg
i also have some photos of Prestige's newest LT for the Arctic Cat. I know Mike does the best I have found on cages imo. But the Long Travel is new to him. So i told him if it is not sick i mean really nice I will be looking at others next month. There is some cutting edge billet Long travel coming out for the Arctic Cat. A buddy of mine drops his cat off there next week for the R&D.

I have seen the billet Lt for their Terxy and it is insane!! and 45lbs lighter than the usual LT.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics033-1.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics034-1.jpg

Double Trouble Hooks

05-22-2009, 07:57 PM

Rick, let your boys know if they need any laser work, I mean exact kick ass shit not plasma to contact me. we have slowed a bit and have freed up some laser time.

Hapa

05-22-2009, 08:21 PM

Rick, let your boys know if they need any laser work, I mean exact kick ass shit not plasma to contact me. we have slowed a bit and have freed up some laser time.

I will pm this post to Mike, not sure if he is a memeber here yet?
I will talk to him after the weekend.

Thanks Dorian!!!

Mike knows you offered I think, so he cant charge me for his gussett kit. cause my homies got my back and will cut them for nuthen lol

Hapa

05-22-2009, 08:37 PM

Rick, let your boys know if they need any laser work, I mean exact kick ass shit not plasma to contact me. we have slowed a bit and have freed up some laser time.

Can I send you those A -arms above and you cut me some out of Titanium?;)

JoeyD23

05-22-2009, 08:46 PM

DAMN Ricky!!!! The RHino is coming along great and those AC arms are looking serious!! Thanks a bunch for posting and keeping us updated on the progress!!

Hapa

05-22-2009, 09:01 PM

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/prowlertalk/IMG_0031web.jpg
like this

JoeyD23

05-22-2009, 09:04 PM

dayum! Looks sick! looks liek front suspension with lower arm shock mounts! Me likey!

Hapa

05-22-2009, 09:08 PM

thats a Teryx, some guy up north of me, he is building it fot the Cat also

JoeyD23

05-22-2009, 09:16 PM

very nice!

family wagon

05-23-2009, 04:33 PM

Hey Rick what type of mat. Are you using for the a arms on that beast

Hapa

05-23-2009, 05:00 PM

not sure, i think I will just let them rust, maybe powdercoat white of course

family wagon

05-23-2009, 06:43 PM

Of course wht let me guess throwing some blk in there somewhere ? I can't wait to see that thing run with the L.T is going to be SICK !!!!

family wagon

06-09-2009, 11:16 AM

Have you got the kit on yet ?

Hapa

07-08-2009, 10:42 PM

LT was sitting on the bench when I was there last
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics033-1.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics034-1.jpg
cage is getting closer these pics are a couple weeks old.
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics062.jpg

family wagon

07-09-2009, 09:49 AM

WTF they should be on the ride already !!! LOL

PJs performance

07-09-2009, 11:51 AM

HAPA Get On Mike, Get That thing in the dirt i want to see it go

JoeyD23

07-09-2009, 06:03 PM

I cant wait to see this ride!! Its going to be one of the baddest!!!!

Hapa

07-09-2009, 07:50 PM

Whats up guys, please dont share until i tell ya, but Mike is really on his A game.

JoeyD23

07-09-2009, 07:51 PM

no email???

Hapa

07-09-2009, 08:07 PM

these are old now, new pics to come soon.

Hapa

07-18-2009, 01:25 PM

Mike at Prestige sent me a couple teasers!!!!

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/DSC02783.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/DSC02785.jpg

megadesertdiesel

07-18-2009, 01:49 PM

looking good. why is the fuel cell on the drivers side? planning on having a fat passenger all the time?

PJs performance

07-18-2009, 03:02 PM

NICE RICK!!

honda1971

07-19-2009, 08:29 AM

Looks awesome!

JoeyD23

07-19-2009, 10:57 AM

Hell yeah Rick! Lookin real nice!!

MAGNUM OFFROAD

07-19-2009, 12:15 PM

What's the purpose of the cell off to one side Rick? Just curious.

Tommy-SB Fab

07-19-2009, 12:41 PM

looks like its centered to me. the aluminum on the bedsides are tapered down so i think it just looks that way

Hapa

07-19-2009, 03:35 PM

What's the purpose of the cell off to one side Rick? Just curious.

Sucker making me show all my pics and shit, Dano you would even be proud of the fab work Mike does. Both your shops are top notch!!!

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/DSC02784.jpg

badinfluencerace

07-19-2009, 04:10 PM

looks baaad-asssssss nice job , gonna run the stock hood or the glass one diecast sells ?

MAGNUM OFFROAD

07-19-2009, 08:33 PM

"I see" said the blind man! Looking good Rick!!! Can't wait to see it in person.

Hapa

07-20-2009, 08:57 AM

looks baaad-asssssss nice job , gonna run the stock hood or the glass one diecast sells ?

plan is to run the stock plastic hood, so you can atleast tell its a Arctic Cat

PJs performance

07-21-2009, 11:57 AM

Looks Good Rick!

Hapa

07-21-2009, 12:27 PM

thanks mang!!

JoeyD23

07-21-2009, 04:35 PM

I cant wait to see it sitting on LT

Hapa

07-22-2009, 06:12 PM

Well its only money right
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f13/xbbox/Smileys/evil-bbq.gif

So today I had to order another matching light for my Rhino.

Taylor at Rigid hooked me up pretty good. But the led light looks so good on the Cat I had to get one for the Rhino also. No pics today I am sorry!!!

Rigid Industries - LED and HID lights

Also talked to Endi sp? at SXSCustoms about stereo stuff,, Bitchen products Side x Side UTV Electronics Specialist if my budget can handle any more.

Here is what my lights will look like, but my bumper light will be an amber light.

Hapa

07-26-2009, 04:35 PM

This is kind of funny, I am also working on my editing skills more than the Arctic Cat today, this is footage from earlier this year

YouTube - Prowler XTZ 1000 Ron Woods Exhaust and instake testing 1

family wagon

07-28-2009, 08:08 AM

Looking good ! where were you riding at when you were with the 2 other rhinos jumping and that ? It looks like a cool spot to go out and ride

Hapa

07-29-2009, 08:27 AM

That was Johnson valley, or apple vallley i think they also call it. The Pro Shop testing grounds. I will have a finish product Ron Woods exhaust on soon. Elliotte Sp? from Ron Woods is great to work with, making my life easier.

Little Glamis Jones here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AMZzk2kdVQ

family wagon

07-29-2009, 08:29 AM

I have never been to J.V but it looks like a sweet place to ride. You guys go out there a lot or was that a one time deal ?

Hapa

07-29-2009, 08:46 AM

I have never been to J.V but it looks like a sweet place to ride. You guys go out there a lot or was that a one time deal ?

Been there a few time, to hot right now from what granny said

JoeyD23

07-29-2009, 08:27 PM

Good vids Rick! Post that Funco jump vid

Brian B

07-30-2009, 08:59 AM

Looking good Rick!

Who's doing the lt? Magnum?

Is there even a kit available yet?

JoeyD23

07-30-2009, 10:26 AM

Prestige is doing the LT I believe.....

Hapa

07-30-2009, 09:19 PM

Ya sorry guys I have been distracted,, Yes Prestige is doing the LT and basically whole build on the Prowler. Most everything went to powder this week. Shocks should be ordered, summers bros for clips only maybe, I think Prestige is making their own axles, but I don't really care.

Tomorrow I pick up my finished product Ron Woods dual exhaust in Newport. Then Drop it off at Prestige on Saturday,

My Rhino paint is done, that build is being put back together now. I get to see the paint for the first time on Saturday,,should I take pics?

Wasatch Quad

07-31-2009, 06:18 AM

My Rhino paint is done, that build is being put back together now. I get to see the paint for the first time on Saturday,,should I take pics?

Is a frogs @$$ water tight??????

Hapa

07-31-2009, 06:50 AM

Is a frogs @$$ water tight??????

10-4....over

Hapa

07-31-2009, 06:58 AM

Is there even a kit available yet?

I can order a LT kit online, I know of a few shops that say they are ready. I have talked to several shops who are doing their own version and already have a Cat to test with. I have had no luck getting someone to build & install a LT for me. I have never seen a longtravel kit on an XTZ in person. Its not as big of a money maker right now for the shops so it is usually a back burner project.

Prestige specializes in Arctic Cats, mike used to race the Arctic Cat in short track. He was fast! For as good of a job as they do on the Rhino's,,you know he built my White four seater, I am comfortable with him doing my Longtravel.

This will be my first full race utv build so I am excited.

family wagon

07-31-2009, 07:41 AM

I seen one out in Pismo a couple of weeks ago and it looked sick ! IT was done up in a 4 seater form but the wierd thing was it was only going up and down the shore and not once did I see it in the dunes .........?????

Hapa

07-31-2009, 04:28 PM

Picked up my Ron Woods ezhaust

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics074.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics075.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/pics076.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/xtzbig.gif

Hapa

08-07-2009, 09:27 PM

family wagon

08-08-2009, 09:00 AM

Have you changed the name Rick or are you stayin with the same one that you were thinking about ? so when is the kitty and the rhino going to be finally done ?

JoeyD23

08-09-2009, 10:55 AM

This post is only intended to keep Joey on his toes, I was gunna cuss but it's friday night and Joey is probably sleeping. he he he

My utv is gonna spank ya!! Joey!!! look no cussing lol I am gonna get ya,,,, in all seriousness, what is the new name of your ride? and I will tell you mine. And well mine is really good!

thanks for a great forum Bro!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think my car is going to be called 'Optimus Prime" because it transforms from a 5 seat family machine into a 2 seat beast! LOL Your 686 better be well tuned cause when that 720 is dialed your in trouble!

Hapa

08-10-2009, 08:17 AM

I think my car is going to be called 'Optimus Prime" because it transforms from a 5 seat family machine into a 2 seat beast! LOL Your 686 better be well tuned cause when that 720 is dialed your in trouble!

you mean my 951cc ride,,,ya its about ready

the single cylinder stuff i leave to the women, My wife will be driving the little 686, the one that spanked everyone before.

Ted@ATR

08-26-2009, 09:15 AM

....the single cylinder stuff i leave to the women......

Them's fightin words!! lol

Any more pic updates on the Cat?

Hapa

08-26-2009, 01:40 PM

Ted@ATR

08-26-2009, 03:19 PM

Hey, I can bust some AIR!

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2374/14/106/1406779429/n1406779429_233452_2726.jpg

megadesertdiesel

08-26-2009, 04:34 PM

Hey, I can bust some AIR!

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2374/14/106/1406779429/n1406779429_233452_2726.jpg

now thats a badass looking track. where is it at? that sure aint no fast sweeping corners with a little woop section. got any more pics?

Ted@ATR

08-28-2009, 12:10 PM

Yeah, I have plenty of pics but I don't wanna jack this thread. I'll get some together and make a new thread when I get a chance!

family wagon

08-28-2009, 01:45 PM

No more updates at this time,,,, Hapa II will be ready very soon like a week, and PUSS will be ready for the SSSS!!

I will blow this thread up with pics very soon, then i will teach you guys to bust some air!!!:D

So you are going to name it Puss....... Thats sweet man the story behind it is pretty cool cant wait to see it all done !

family adventure

09-07-2009, 10:48 AM

That thing sounds AWESOME in the video!

Karl

09-09-2009, 02:34 PM

Looking good Rick!

Who's doing the lt? Magnum?

Is there even a kit available yet?

TMW Offroad had a kit for the kitty... saw it at a expo show here in Glendale. Sat kinda high.

Hapa

09-10-2009, 06:57 AM

Well guys i dont have any pics of my ride, but my Rhino Hapa II is almost complete. So i will post up some pics tonight. i am sorry for dragging my feet with the updates. I am having a hard time believing both rides will be done by the SSSS. If they are complete, i am sure their will be pics everywhere.

My Rhino has every dang part i could think of except the dash is not white yet like I wanted. But I dont care and i am done anyways. its time to ride!

PJs performance

09-10-2009, 09:15 AM

AMEN RICKY!!!!!

Hapa

09-17-2009, 06:08 PM

How that saying go Joey? Its on like Donkey Kong

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/securedownload1.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/securedownload.jpg

Hapa

09-17-2009, 06:42 PM

Might as well post Hapa II while I am at it!

Yes many more pics to come, the Rhino is Hapa II

Prestige Builds Some Sick Rides

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/th_Picture021.jpg (http://s290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/?action=view&current=Picture021.flv)
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/Picture032.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/Picture003.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/Picture033.jpg

Hapa

09-17-2009, 07:03 PM

These pics make me kind of sad, I know I am to dam soft inmy old age.
These are not show or trailer queens. We are going to beat on them just like the old Hapa.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Prerideprep002.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/Copy3of101_2082.jpg

retired, kind of sad
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/pics049.jpg

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/Rhino%20Pics/Copy2of101_2083.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/101_2105.jpg

MAGNUM OFFROAD

09-17-2009, 09:10 PM

Wow, the cat looks great Rick!!!

Hapa

09-18-2009, 02:15 PM

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll247/Hapa_photo/My%20Prowler/CANJPTKQ.jpg

facteryfmf

09-18-2009, 04:16 PM

14" paddles?

kingck5

09-19-2009, 01:33 PM

DAMMIT RICK GOT SOME PUUUUUUURRRRRTY TOYS THERE.......NICE ILL CK THEM OUT MANANA AT THE SHOW

Hapa

12-14-2009, 07:50 PM

Well I haven't giving an update on my Prowler in a long time. I had some fun in it and found out I had some problems right away also.

I was having bottoming out issues in the rear. The fox engineers looked at it and gave me some advice. they rebuilt the shocks and replaced the rubber bump stops with some urethane. The set the sag and toe and were a great help. The engineer Ross noticed something was not optimal on the suspension. So he suggested a longer shock with 3 more inch's of travel in the rear. I was like ya right? thought he was kinda kidding, he checked and everything works better with a longer rear shock, so I gave his contact info to Mike at Prestige and figured they would figure it out.

But I still was bottoming in the rear? Chris from Bench Mark did some tuning at the hill with me, He is super knowledgeable and set it the best it has ridden yet. Chris also mentioned I should go heavier springs in the rear. So i went to a 350 lb spring and tightened the shocks all way to tight adjustment and back them off 1 click. And still I bottomed on big hits.

This whole time I had a chance to finally run the Prowler some and I discovered it was running way rich and i did overheat it once but anyway, the blow back oil pooled in my air cleaner and when I stopped at the hill the oil would drain onto a hot exhaust pipe and caught on fire the last time. We got the fire out quick and not much damage. So that is where i am at.

So Mike has ordered new shocks 3 1/2 inch longer to fix the rear suspension. This is with much help from Ross at Fox Shocks, the guy is awsome and really takes the time with his help!!! And Jim @ Prestige gave it a leak down test today, see if the rings, head gasket and stuff need to be done again? Or if it just needs to get on the Dyno. Owe and I am working on new rear rims that bent when i bottomed out.

Unleashed has offered to step up and help me out with the rims, Greg didn't take long as soon as I e-mailed him he knew what I did and is ready to help. great guy
I am also speaking to Bogart make sure i have the best solution for sand rims.

MAGNUM OFFROAD

12-14-2009, 08:06 PM

Did you guys measure the leverage ratios on the LT prior to setting up the shocks Rick? And maybe check the corner weights? We'd be happy to dyno your shocks and get you pointed in the right direction if you need the help! Even though we didn't build the kit, we can get it working right. Let me know, MAGNUM has your back Rick!!!:D

JoeyD23

12-14-2009, 08:46 PM

WOW Rick! The car looks amazing and I am sure you will get it dialed. You definitley did not take the path of least resistance and you have created a true one of a kind. A little more dialing in and I am sure it will be the ultimate SXS!!!! Cant wait to run with you, if I can keep up that is!!! hahaha

Thanks for poppin in, always good to see you in the Underground doggie!

Hapa

12-16-2009, 10:12 AM

Well I appreciate the offer Dano, thanks

I am going to let Mike finish the suspension and build. he has already been payed. We have to install a gas gage, my dead foot pedal got bent on the last jumps and my Steering wheel bent again. O also bent my rims but they are going to weld rings in them to strengthen the rims, and just some little stuff like that. The answer is they did not measure the rear A arms right the first time we have found out. Thats my guess. But ya the build is just about finished.

Now the engine, I am waiting on the leak down. this also determines if I have my ride for New Years and is my whole season blown again or what? If the rings are ok, then I will do the head gaskets, get it to the Pro Shop for Dyno see if they can get this thing running right. If I am not pushing 72 plus Hp then i will be disappointed and will have to start planning the rebuild with hairdryer option.

I really want to thank Chris @ benchmark for his time and Ross at Fox Shocks and Sandchris from AZ these guys take the time answer all my questions and have given good advice along the way.

Hapa

12-16-2009, 10:48 AM

KJSmith84

12-16-2009, 12:48 PM

I have a question;;;;

In order to really dial in my powercammander III and my new intake and exhaust, Do I need to drill my exhaust for an O2 censor/bung ??

Or can a dyno dial it in, or do I need someone with a laptop to ride with me and dial it in?

do you have a 3 or the new 5?

you will always need a a/f sniffer when tuning it- all guys with dynos should have one that they stick int eh end of your pipe.

but if you have the new PC5 you can just add the new auto tune with a sensor in your exhaust

Hapa

12-16-2009, 01:25 PM

Ya i have the three, and they do use the sniffer in the both cylinders when they set it up. It is set right at the 12.5 to 13 range you want. i guess I need to learn to work the adjustments so I can change them under load, like at the hill??

We measured the shocks and A-arms and we do have the right shocks on there. The leak down test is happening now.

i dont know if I have a dual rate spring on there??

They are the new fox triple adjustable shocks with the 350lb springs on there.

KJSmith84

12-16-2009, 01:37 PM

Hapa

12-16-2009, 03:49 PM

I know of a buggy that is already done with a trailer for 40k:mad:

Hapa

12-23-2009, 08:02 AM

Well the top end is good no need to do piston and rings or even head gaskets. The water pump did have a little leak and that was fixed under warranty. yay

The suspension seems to be fixed. We adjusted the ride height up a little bit. We also tightened all the shocks adjustments and it is much stiffer. So i am thinking the bottoming out issues are solved.

Now i just want to dyno it one more time and download the maps to my laptop so I can adjust the fuel controller out in the sand and make sure it is running the best it can.

I feel like it is really getting close to where I want it to be!

JoeyD23

12-23-2009, 08:32 AM

right on Rick!!! Cant wait to run with you!!

Hapa

12-23-2009, 06:38 PM

found out on the Dyno today that one or both head gaskets are bad again:mad:

No Prowler for the family vacation again:mad:

Ordered new head gaskets and head bolts today, try the install again after the New Years????

Have a Merry Christmas and happy New year every one. I dont even get mad anymore about this stuff. I am lucky to have what i have:)

But I keep thinking about the thousands of miles i put on my 450x every year in baja with no issues, and my 450r in Glamis??? why cant honda or yamaha just make a big engine long travel utv??? Maybe I just need to stick to the two wheelers??? I am changing the name of my Prowler to the Definition of insanity:(

Hapa

06-30-2010, 04:32 PM

Well I took my Prowler out for a ride last Saturday night in the dunes of Glamis. http://www.utvunderground.com/f46/glamis-night-run-pics-3886.html
pics

It was really nice weather 85 is when we got there. I drove around for about 15 min and warmed it up good and let it sit for a hour. No radiator fluid spitting and no overheating. It ran at about 180 - 190 degrees all night.

So i drove it a little harder and ran up and down the rpm's and it seemed fine. It gets to 50mph so fast and it did 65 plus easy but I didn't push it to hard.

So I put the paddles on and took off, it ran great and we just did the shocks and re mounted the rears so I have a true 14 inch of travel all the way around. I added 5 gallons of fuel and the dam back end bottom out on my again. SO I put some turns on the rear shocks and that helped / fixed the problem for me. I did loose power going up Oldsmobile hill, its a big long hill for those that don't know, super soft sand remember. But it ran great everywhere else until I broke one of the heim attachments two piece bolts.

So my buddies took my kitty off to a pre-planned dyno / mapping expert. Chris at Benchmark performance. He will solve the mapping and loss of power at Olds. And I just got a call that Todd at HRT is going to re-valve and dial in my suspension. The vehicle is there now.

So I must say a big thanks to Jim and Mike at Prestige once again!!! and I will let you know how Benchmark and HRT do on the rest. I am honored to have such class shops working on my ride :)

Hapa

08-25-2010, 08:39 PM

i took my Cat to Benchmark for some tunning. Chris drilled a bung then check my a/f and made sure the engine was running right.

Then he noticed that i was only pulling the 5000 rpms, so we installed 15gram weights, he also notice some of the weights did not wear like we wanted. The new weights will fix this, but noted. The engine now runs 7100rpms and should be a hell of lot better.
Chris told me it was like riding my 450 two wheeler around in 5th gear all the time, just bogging. Chris also tells em there is a lot more in this engine!!! hint hint. He then delivers my ride to HRT for me. Class Act!! also did some front axle cage bear replacement with Prestige's help.

So Todd at HRT looked at my Cat, and he is only working on the rear shock mounts. the front can be adjusted to work and are well built.

So the upper shock Mount on the rear is getting lowered a full inch, The bottom mount tabs are getting moved out 4 1/5 inch's. I will have about 13 inch's of real travel in the rear. It was getting some knee lock on the rear shock previously. So with a rebuilt and re-valved Fox shocks i have i should see good results.