Go Back   UTVUnderground.Com - The #1 Resource for SXS Enthusiasts > UTV Underground General Disscusion > General UTV Discussion

General UTV Discussion General UTV Discussion www.blackrhinoperformance.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #81  
Old 07-24-2012, 12:01 PM
Dirty's Avatar
Dirty Dirty is offline
DIRTY iPhone Photog / Lucas Oil - UTVUnderground Approved
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Murrieta CA
Name: Ken Johnson AKA "Dirty" on the Web
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 21
Dirty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: STOCK Polaris Xp Class @ The Lucas Oil Regional Series??? Need your input



Check out this Regional Recap
__________________
“I believe in staying on top of your own success. Don't get blinded by the shiny things and lose sight of what you were going after in the first place"
..Heavy Hitters..

Reply With Quote
  #82  
Old 11-14-2012, 09:45 AM
Dirty's Avatar
Dirty Dirty is offline
DIRTY iPhone Photog / Lucas Oil - UTVUnderground Approved
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Murrieta CA
Name: Ken Johnson AKA "Dirty" on the Web
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 21
Dirty has a reputation beyond repute
Default

We are coming close to the one year mark of launching this thread and things are coming together nicely. 2013 will see major UTV growth in the Lucas Oil Regional Series!
__________________
“I believe in staying on top of your own success. Don't get blinded by the shiny things and lose sight of what you were going after in the first place"
..Heavy Hitters..

Reply With Quote
  #83  
Old 11-14-2012, 10:45 AM
tyler's Avatar
tyler tyler is online in The Underground
Parkse5 - UTVUnderground Approved
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: mission viejo
Name: tyler parks
Posts: 398
Rep Power: 15
tyler has much to be proud of
Default Re: STOCK Polaris Xp Class @ The Lucas Oil Regional Series??? Need your input

I this class ever going back to the national series?
Reply With Quote
  #84  
Old 11-14-2012, 08:25 PM
Dirty's Avatar
Dirty Dirty is offline
DIRTY iPhone Photog / Lucas Oil - UTVUnderground Approved
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Murrieta CA
Name: Ken Johnson AKA "Dirty" on the Web
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 21
Dirty has a reputation beyond repute
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tyler View Post
I this class ever going back to the national series?
I think it's way to much money to race the National series as JoeyD and DNF736 explains earlier in a post.



***** But the key to getting good turnouts in UTV racing are low entry fees, affordable to get your team, family, etc in to the event and keeping the cars as close to stock as possible. ***** JoeyD

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyD23 View Post
The Pro UTVs were not there to race SR1s. They were there to race other factory styled UTVs. SR1s did not need to be limited, for what? Those tracks are made for major HP to make them exciting. The Pro UTV class with the help of LOORRS killed themselves by racing themselves out of a class. The trend was already set before the SR1s came along, if you didn't have a $10k-$15k motor program then don't bother showing up unless you were content with running around the pack hoping the other guys would break. The guys who were committed to the Pro UTV class were committed to doing whatever it took to make more power to go faster. That race for the top ended up becoming the death of the class due to cost.

SR1s came on the scene with the intent of building a machine that was affordable to build and maintain. While some lost motors I know many who raced on the same engine many many times. This was not possible with a high string V Twin. RJ was able to keep his Kroyer XP engine alive but he was the only one competing in a XP in the class. I believe the reason he was the only one was 1. It was a new machine an 2. It was jut too damn expensive to build a LOORRS car and compete in it. The building of the machine wasn't the problem, the rules were very detailed and maybe over done for a UTV but it was the cost of racing for a whole season at the big show that scared people away. Let Rahders, VanBeekum, George's, etc explain what it cost to get their team into the pits, fuel, food, repairs, etc etc. that's why killed this class. UTVs are affordable to buy and when you apply rules an formatting like WORCS and what the regional is trying to do you have success with UTV racing and car turnout.

My point for this is that cage design, tube diameter, ECU regulating, etc really have nothing to do with car count. Fuel cells do in my opinion because once you require aftermarket fuel cells you have to change a ton.

***** But the key to getting good turnouts in UTV racing are low entry fees, affordable to get your team, family, etc in to the event and keeping the cars as close to stock as possible. *****

One day we can hope that LOORRS will bring us back, but That's only going to happen if we build car counts back up.

From a Former National Level Utv racer.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dnf736 View Post
Everything Joey said is pretty much right on except for the price of a LOORRS UTV racing engine. $15k might cover what was in our Rhino 760 in 09 but for a competitive v-twin you could easily double that and then some and that would be enough for a mid pack effort.

What killed short course UTV racing? The UTV did. The SR1 almost kept it alive as it was cheaper to convert from UTV to SR1 (about $5000) than it was to rebuild a short course UTV engine but, in the end not enough racers stepped up, Tony made a judgement call, and it all faded back to the Regional’s.

Some data to chew on, this is minimum what it cost to race your first UTV at LOORRS, I know I missed something;
Entry $300
License, annual $590
Mechanic, annual $470
Crew, annual $320
Race gas $65
Diesel $250
$1995.00 your first time out.
$615 each round after that not including below
Your race car, tires, other wear items and consumables, spares, crash/race damage, time off, sleeping arrangements(motorhome/toybox/hotel) food, tow vehicle, wear and tear on it, fire suit, helmet, gloves, shoes etc.

XP racing at LORORS...I have some thoughts on this.....
__________________
“I believe in staying on top of your own success. Don't get blinded by the shiny things and lose sight of what you were going after in the first place"
..Heavy Hitters..

Reply With Quote
  #85  
Old 11-14-2012, 08:30 PM
Seaver's Avatar
Seaver Seaver is offline
Full Throttle
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Boise ID
Name: Todd
Posts: 406
Rep Power: 18
Seaver has a brilliant future
Default Re: STOCK Polaris Xp Class @ The Lucas Oil Regional Series??? Need your input

Again, well said Doug and Joey. This stock class will be a great class to build at the regional level. The big weekends are plenty full with out bringing UTVS back.
__________________
Loan Mart RacingWalker Evans racing
Western Powersports. FLY
Lucas Oil Offroad racing series
Reply With Quote
  #86  
Old 11-15-2012, 08:52 AM
Dirty's Avatar
Dirty Dirty is offline
DIRTY iPhone Photog / Lucas Oil - UTVUnderground Approved
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Murrieta CA
Name: Ken Johnson AKA "Dirty" on the Web
Posts: 489
Rep Power: 21
Dirty has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: STOCK Polaris Xp Class @ The Lucas Oil Regional Series??? Need your input



Check out the UTVUnderground LoanMart Lucas Oil Regional Video Recap

Click on photo




__________________
“I believe in staying on top of your own success. Don't get blinded by the shiny things and lose sight of what you were going after in the first place"
..Heavy Hitters..

Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
class, input, lucas, oil, polaris, regional, series, stock

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

UTV Underground Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:33 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright UTVUnderground.Com...You steal, You Die!
vBulletin Skin By: ForumThemes.com