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Old 08-13-2012, 10:13 PM
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I never once said that I don't support you having a choice to wear one. All I said is that the helmet law would not be the end of the world. Personally helmets for me is not a problem. But that's me...
Joey,

I also prefer one, but that's me. After Chris' accident, I've become a little more conservative, but I do agree, we have enough government. I think the straw that's gonna break that Camels back is not too far off. These government folks better get the message, or they may not like what happens next, it definitely isn't going to be in their favor.

There's far too many people that are on the verge of losing it all, and then we will have Anarchy as Bear said.

If anything needs to be legislated, it should be that if you don't wear a helmet as recommended, then you have no recourse to a lawsuit against the manufacturers. That will allow those who want to ride bare naked, the ability to police themselves. For all others, we ride with helmets, no big deal.

I guess if I decide to drown myself in the bathtub, ain't gonna be anyone taking baths anymore, ya think?

The insanity has to stop, but in some ways the sue happy public has nobody to blame but themselves.

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Old 08-13-2012, 11:29 PM
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Spent the week in Pismo with my Family in the Teryx with the 4 seat conversion, and my kids had a blast. We go every August. I hope we can go again next Aug if the law allows.

Anyway I noticed about 90% of all Teryxs and Rhinos had 4 seat conversions and I'm betting 90% of those people are not aware of this law. If this dont change theres gonna be alot of pissed off people
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Given the choice JoeyD has his own style!



It sucks when another Country is freer than US!



I remember the "Good Ol Dlays"!
I like the choice but have gotten used to wearing helmets and like it.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:23 AM
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I like the choice but have gotten used to wearing helmets and like it.
Thats all I wanted to hear
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The choice to wear a helmet should be defended by ALL. Next time they go after our rights it may be something you are totally against and those of us that defend freedom will be there even if we aren't totally against it. If you let the government take someone else's rights then who will help you protect yours. Just saying divide we FALL. UNITED WE STAND.
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The choice to wear a helmet should be defended by ALL. Next time they go after our rights it may be something you are totally against and those of us that defend freedom will be there even if we aren't totally against it. If you let the government take someone else's rights then who will help you protect yours. Just saying divide we FALL. UNITED WE STAND.
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The choice to wear a helmet should be defended by ALL. Next time they go after our rights it may be something you are totally against and those of us that defend freedom will be there even if we aren't totally against it. If you let the government take someone else's rights then who will help you protect yours. Just saying divide we FALL. UNITED WE STAND.
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Old 08-14-2012, 08:16 AM
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I am just curious where you guys stand on Helmet laws for street bikes? I fully understand the argument of a cage and seatbelt vs riding an MC on the street, but the choice argument also me think you guys are opposed to helmet laws period.

Did you, or would you oppose a law like this if it had nothing to do with you in the name of the protection of freedom?

I guess you can likely see where I am headed with this? Its not meant to be a dig, I just like raising questions that make people think.

Faith is a lot easier than doing research and taking action. We have faith that our elected leadership is looking out for our best interest, or faith that the people running for office are the best qualified, when in reality that does not seem the case when you start digging into things. This discussion is a great example of this.

Some have faith that I am going to do whats right for them, and that I am doing the research, when in fact they should be doing it for themselves, and making their own decisions. As we strip it down to the basics you can see how this apathy affects every aspect of our lives, from large to small.

Just some things to think about.

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Every choice in life has a risk. Its up to you on how you protect yourself. Look at something as basic as a lawnmower. Just looking at the basic stats it looks like's these things are very dangerous. However all over this great country everyday people are out mowing without any required training class, there is not a "LAW" requiring protective gear to be worn while operating.

The AAP suggests that “the minimum age for operation of lawn mowers by children is at least 16 years for ride-on mowers and at least 12 years for walk-behind power mowers and hand mowers.” Children who are old enough should be properly taught how to operate the mower and how to take safety precautions.


Lawn mower-related injuries are among the most horrific injuries seen at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt. They are devastating to families, and doctors say they see them each spring.
These injuries send about 9,000 children and adolescents to hospital emergency departments across the nation each year. According to the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), one-fourth of those injuries occur in children younger than 5.



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Each year 80,000 Americans require hospital treatment for lawn mower accidents. The majority of those accidents are associated with children under the age of 15 and adults over the age of 60. The most common injuries are strikes by debris that is picked up and thrown by the mower’s spinning blades.
According to the National Electronic Injury Surveillance System’s statistics, 663,000 Americans were seen in emergency rooms for injuries sustained while using lawn mowers from 1996 to 2004. This means that approximately two of every 1,000 emergency room visits results from injuries sustained during lawn mower accidents, which amounts to approximately half the number of annual firearm-related injuries. The most common injury aside from projectile damage is that of a fractured foot.
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Default Re: New law requiring helmets in california

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I am just curious where you guys stand on Helmet laws for street bikes? I fully understand the argument of a cage and seatbelt vs riding an MC on the street, but the choice argument also me think you guys are opposed to helmet laws period.

Did you, or would you oppose a law like this if it had nothing to do with you in the name of the protection of freedom?

I guess you can likely see where I am headed with this? Its not meant to be a dig, I just like raising questions that make people think.

Faith is a lot easier than doing research and taking action. We have faith that our elected leadership is looking out for our best interest, or faith that the people running for office are the best qualified, when in reality that does not seem the case when you start digging into things. This discussion is a great example of this.

Some have faith that I am going to do whats right for them, and that I am doing the research, when in fact they should be doing it for themselves, and making their own decisions. As we strip it down to the basics you can see how this apathy affects every aspect of our lives, from large to small.

Just some things to think about.

It finally hit 50 pages BTW.
INMO, I dont feel that the goverment has any business on protecting ME from ME, I dont agree with Helmet laws, seatbelt laws, or any other law that pertains to keeping me safe from me.

However, I DO wear a helmet on a motorcycle, and a 5 point harness in my rhino, I dont wear a seatbelt in my car, and I WILL NOT wear a helmet in my rhino.
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