WORCS 2012 season?

[Bajaxp]

Originally Posted by OFFROADSWAPMEET

I think BITD is the Resort of desert racing , But having a class1 or trophy truck comming up on your tail during a race is pretty un safe I would say! They should run SOLO!

'Resort' ???

Anyway it would be unsafe if our Ute's weren't built the way that they are, which is also what makes them so expensive. But as they are built, they are as safe as a 2/1600 5/1600, etc.

[dnf736]

Originally Posted by gsxr702

I say run the nets that come on the unit new . Putting window nets on a car with no doors doesn't help when there's no doors . Fire suit I don't think should be have to have . It's a place to race have a great time an see other cars before you start to build yours . It a place to start racing an not have to spend thousands first .

Figuratively & literally....what? I gotta say wow, guess I need to get on the soap box now and say some of you guys dont get it yet, let me help you all on this a little.

Saturday my sons engine blew on the last lap at LOORRS.....major oil fire. By the time it was over it melted or burned; wiring harness, fan, hoses, then the fire moved to the drivers area and melted or burned, his seat, his restraints, more wiring, HIS FIRE SUIT, and his shoe laces. The car was still going about 40 when it happened (I wont go into the damage it sufferd when it hit the wall while he was getting out).
The suit saved saved his ass, while he was on fire (he said he was covered in flames) he was able to get himself out of the car then put his own fire out and suffered no burns what so ever. All of the above took place over a 10-15 second time period, that fast.

Do you think jeans and a t-shirt or nylon MX gear will offer the same protection?

While the chances of this kind of fire is remote it is still possible. Remember, you're strapped in a car, behind doors and window nets, maybe even laid over or upside down, once those flames start dancing across your lap (try not to panic) the extra time a fire suit will buy you is the difference between looking at a smoking car going "aw shit" and a year of getting skin grafts.

SFI is your friend guys, when racing buy one, wear one, and make sure you buy the nomex socks too, those things saved my sons exposed area between the shoes and pant leg of his suit.

Racing is damn fun serious buisness, money and cars will come and go but theres only one you, protect yourself. My .02

PS, Im ordering an on board fire system, this $300 dollar expense most likely would have saved me $1500 or more by the time Im done repairing the car.

[Long Travel Ind.]

Originally Posted by dnf736

Figuratively & literally....what? I gotta say wow, guess I need to get on the soap box now and say some of you guys dont get it yet, let me help you all on this a little.

Saturday my sons engine blew on the last lap at LOORRS.....major oil fire. By the time it was over it melted or burned; wiring harness, fan, hoses, then the fire moved to the drivers area and melted or burned, his seat, his restraints, more wiring, HIS FIRE SUIT, and his shoe laces. The car was still going about 40 when it happened (I wont go into the damage it sufferd when it hit the wall while he was getting out).
The suit saved saved his ass, while he was on fire (he said he was covered in flames) he was able to get himself out of the car then put his own fire out and suffered no burns what so ever. All of the above took place over a 10-15 second time period, that fast.

Do you think jeans and a t-shirt or nylon MX gear will offer the same protection?

While the chances of this kind of fire is remote it is still possible. Remember, you're strapped in a car, behind doors and window nets, maybe even laid over or upside down, once those flames start dancing across your lap (try not to panic) the extra time a fire suit will buy you is the difference between looking at a smoking car going "aw shit" and a year of getting skin grafts.

SFI is your friend guys, when racing buy one, wear one, and make sure you buy the nomex socks too, those things saved my sons exposed area between the shoes and pant leg of his suit.

Racing is damn fun serious buisness, money and cars will come and go but theres only one you, protect yourself. My .02

PS, Im ordering an on board fire system, this $300 dollar expense most likely would have saved me $1500 or more by the time Im done repairing the car.

well said .... here is what josh's leg looked like after a quick fire in the rhino without a fire suit.....

[OFFROADSWAPMEET]

Originally Posted by Bajaxp

'Resort' ???

Anyway it would be unsafe if our Ute's weren't built the way that they are, which is also what makes them so expensive. But as they are built, they are as safe as a 2/1600 5/1600, etc.

Resort of desert racing meaning: High end and top notch orginzation of desert racing! Thanks to Casey and still running strong overall.

As for fire suits and doors:
Doug,
Im glad Code is OK, Sucks for the car but a great example why all racers should wear a FIRE SUIT!Where do I get the socks?

Door's should be manditory and the ones that open dont work. The bars could go through you if you get T-boned.
Dont be lazy and dukes a hazard out off your car!
You must have nets and doors to make it safe!! Get your doors on and I know of a place for a great deal. FAB and SHEET METAL. PM ME for doors and windows

PRP WINDOW NETS

[BiggJim]

Originally Posted by OFFROADSWAPMEET

I think BITD is the Resort of desert racing , But having a class1 or trophy truck comming up on your tail during a race is pretty un safe I would say! They should run SOLO!

Im not sure where your image of BiTD is coming from, but I will say with V2R just behind us its far from a resort. We were torn on what racing we wanted to do. And after NOT finishing V2R due to an engine failure I can say the accomplishment we felt only making it 307 miles was intense. We plan on running in the Pro class next year and making the whole season. WORC's on the other hand is an awesome Event. Its just too bad we dont have the funds to race 2 cars at 2 different series'

[JoeyD23]

Originally Posted by Long Travel Ind.

well said .... here is what josh's leg looked like after a quick fire in the rhino without a fire suit.....

If that doesn't make you want to wear a fire suit then I don't know what will......

Again, I want to personally thank WORCS (Ryan & Sean) for keeping UTVUnderground members/racers/readers informed on the current and upcoming season. The fact that this many people have input, concerns, and praise shows that whats going on at WORCS is pretty special. I for one cannot wait to see how this season finishes up and am really excited for January's kickoff race at Glen Helen!!!

[OFFROADSWAPMEET]

I love any UTV racing and RESORT is a good thing,Top of the line desert series BITD.

[karter44]

I raced every WORCS race last year in class 2 and had a blast, I would hate for that to change. Just becareful about what rules you try and change. Safety is #1 and they should make fire suits be worn, plus it looks alot better for our sport then some one racing around in shorts like they did last year. Leave the classes how they are and just add some more safty to the rules.

[805CustomZ]

First off. I am all for safety.

If we look back on the 2011 Season first race at Taft.
The turnout for class one was very small and class 3 was huge.

There was more than one stock looking rhino out there with or without passengers having a great time. If we compare it to last race in Glen helen the Rhino turnout was very small. One stock looking rhino and very few passengers. I am not sure what the reasoning is for the shrinking of the Rhino class is. But when other rhino racers are asking stock looking rhinos if there really going to race. This could be intimidating for new racers to the sport. I am guessing they don't think that a stock rhino should be out there with them. It is going to hurt the sport. Most racers start off somewhere. If we chase the little guys off we won't grow. I would personally like to see the rules in class 2 and 3 stay the same.(the addition to wrist straps is a good idea) In these classes a stock rig can be competitive. For those of us that have warranties and use them for activities other than racing. Welded on doors and side nets void warranties and make it extremely hard to use the vehicles for recreational activities.

I am all for rule changes in class 1. If class one continues to grow at the alarming rate is it. Its going to need 2 separate classes. One modified and one stock. There are RZR xp that have more money in additional parts than the original cost of purchase in them racing against stock rzr's. If we want to stay on the premise that this is for the average racer to compete in we might just need two classes. 3 rows of Xp's means there is definitely alot of them out there. Xp's are running such fast track times it might be a good idea to let them run without anyone else out there. There is going to be more collisions and bumping and if we don't address it soon. When an xp is lapping people its hard to tell if its an xp lapping you or a competitor trying to get around you.

This brings me to a separate topic. There needs to be places to pass people. The rigs are getting so wide that its very difficult to get by other rigs. Especially on tight tracks. Even if there lap traffic they can still be very difficult to pass if the tack is only one car wide. In some spots there needs to be 2 paths that connect back up. This will cut down on the bumping and allow faster racers to get around slower racers.

As far as practice goes it is definitely needed. If we look at how many utv's were broken or rolled at Taft practice. It is evident we need a chance to see the track. It gave everyone a second chance to correct there mistakes fix there rigs and race.

Hopefully my rant will make since. Hope to see you all at the next race.

[lmcarraher]

Originally Posted by 805CustomZ

First off. I am all for safety.

If we look back on the 2011 Season first race at Taft.
The turnout for class one was very small and class 3 was huge.

There was more than one stock looking rhino out there with or without passengers having a great time. If we compare it to last race in Glen helen the Rhino turnout was very small. One stock looking rhino and very few passengers. I am not sure what the reasoning is for the shrinking of the Rhino class is. But when other rhino racers are asking stock looking rhinos if there really going to race. This could be intimidating for new racers to the sport. I am guessing they don't think that a stock rhino should be out there with them. It is going to hurt the sport. Most racers start off somewhere. If we chase the little guys off we won't grow. I would personally like to see the rules in class 2 and 3 stay the same.(the addition to wrist straps is a good idea) In these classes a stock rig can be competitive. For those of us that have warranties and use them for activities other than racing. Welded on doors and side nets void warranties and make it extremely hard to use the vehicles for recreational activities.

I am all for rule changes in class 1. If class one continues to grow at the alarming rate is it. Its going to need 2 separate classes. One modified and one stock. There are RZR xp that have more money in additional parts than the original cost of purchase in them racing against stock rzr's. If we want to stay on the premise that this is for the average racer to compete in we might just need two classes. 3 rows of Xp's means there is definitely alot of them out there. Xp's are running such fast track times it might be a good idea to let them run without anyone else out there. There is going to be more collisions and bumping and if we don't address it soon. When an xp is lapping people its hard to tell if its an xp lapping you or a competitor trying to get around you.

This brings me to a separate topic. There needs to be places to pass people. The rigs are getting so wide that its very difficult to get by other rigs. Especially on tight tracks. Even if there lap traffic they can still be very difficult to pass if the tack is only one car wide. In some spots there needs to be 2 paths that connect back up. This will cut down on the bumping and allow faster racers to get around slower racers.

As far as practice goes it is definitely needed. If we look at how many utv's were broken or rolled at Taft practice. It is evident we need a chance to see the track. It gave everyone a second chance to correct there mistakes fix there rigs and race.

Hopefully my rant will make since. Hope to see you all at the next race.

agreed 100%