Positive post on Race Desert for UTV's - need your help!

[Bajaxp]

UTVUG:
There are some Willy Johnson's over on Race Dezert (RDC) that keep posting that UTV's shouldn't be on the race course at Best In The Desert races or should start at the back. I just posted a very positive thread with some 'fun facts' supporting UTV racing. Robby Gordon said that a UTV's dust caused him the race. Ahem...

I need your support to keep the 'herd mentality' that is prevalent on RDC from undermining UTV's and UTV racing. Any help would be appreciated.

Here is the thread... http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/sho...lver-State-300

[Ignore Amos]

Some of those guys...even legends of the sport will never accept how much better the current crop of UTV racers are..stupid comments to say the least...oh you dont have the same course conditions...oh you dont have to pass traffic like we do...How many more excuses will they come up with? If I get on there I'll be positive and recommend all the other responders do the same as you suggest. Thanks for posting up the stats...they don't lie. See you at V2R.

[rammotorsports]

SNORE Class 1's - Quit nerfing blue-light cars!

Check out the above thread that was also posted in RDZ. UTV's were not even allowed to race in this event! (We were told due to economic and safety reasons this race was closed to UTV's) Well now, what is the excuse the "Wiley Johnson's" will come up with? After reading all of the posts, we wrote a very poignant letter to S.N.O.R.E. in support of UTV Racing and stated some interesting facts...using the above thread to hammer home the so called "safety factor UTV's present" is unsubstantiated. There has been no response as of yet. The UTV class must stand together as a whole to defeat this ridicules reputation and continue racing in the safe and sportsmanlike manner in which we do.
P.S. I hope that the link works...I have never posted one before..

Sandra Head
Team Manager, RAM Motorsports

[mosslager]

Just read the thread on RDZ and am glad to have JD breaking it down as well as a couple others. Keep up the good work guys! I think there is some butt ache over the fact UTVs are progressing at such a fast rate and their popularity is growing and becoming legitimized to the point the "glorified golf cart" term is being forgotten. I can't wait to see where the industry is in 10 years.

[az_amsoil]

Being involved with both side of this issue (UTV and TT/CL1), I didn't get the sense that they are saying that UTV's shouldn't be racing, they have an issue as to where BITD starts them. I happen to agree. UTVs should be in the four wheel pack, probably somewhere in the TL to 1/2 1600 class. Why they start them behind moto/quads is boggling! Ask anyone who has been passed, at race speed, by a TT/CL1 and it is no joke! There is nothing fun about not being able to hear a 6,000lb 800HP vehicle and then BOOM!!!! Your blinded by a huge plum of dust as you sh!t your pants cause you didn't know it was there...

The starting order make no difference, race condition are going to change all the time. UTVs start dead last at SCORE, the course is as chewed up as it will ever get when they hit it, so why would it make any difference at the SS300 or V2R??? In fact being a 4 wheel drive vehicle is an advantage in the rocky, silty, chewed up sections.

At some point these guys will realize that UTVs are the future of the sport, just because the economics make sense. Not every racer can afford a $250k race vehicle, then add in $10k-$15k prep costs, per race and you living in the 1%ers world. The fact that the UTVs are semi-affordable to race and show up in numbers will stem the tide of haters...hopefully.

[VBosch02]

I just read the whole post over on RDC. Not being a desert UTV racer, yet, take this at a bystanders view. I agree while the UTV industry and racers are jumping by leaps and bounds. The safety concerns are more important to me than who finished where and how many trucks and buggies they beat. If UTV's are getting caught by TT and class 1's by a closing rate of over 40 mph at some points of the race. I would want to be off the track the second the first TT passed me. Not because I'm a chicken but because racing is suppose to be fun. I realize that racing is dangerous, but if some of the danger can be taken away by starting behind the TT and 1's than why wouldn't petitions be made to start behind them. UTV's are here to stay, everyone knows that! Start where is appropriate for the UTV’s.

[450grl]

I also read the whole thread, and I think their beef is not with you at all, or the UTV racers - it's with BITD and where they are starting the UTVs when the big trucks are racing. I have raced UTVs and trucks in the desert, and even in a truck I just about poo myself when I get tagged by a TT that I didn't even see coming up (and I ALWAYS check my mirrors!).

I don't know why Casey doesn't start you guys behind the big/fast classes.....but it would be great to make some good, pro-active changes before something serious happens and changes are made purely on a reactionary basis.

And I'm super stoked about how far the UTVs have come.....keep kicking ass, you guys!!

[Darryl89]

I read the complete thread also and agree with Corry and Bob. I don't think they want to get rid of UTV's, just move them to start behind the TT's and Class 1 cars. I would tend to agree, even if the course gets chewed up, most of you competing are capable drivers with capable machines to handle it.

And the added security of not having a TT bear down on you at speed...

[LM Industires]

I read everything over at race dezert. I havent personally been in a race car during a race but I have pitted for some. Also I know Casey and his crew and have seen what he has to go through to get the race put on. Its amazing there are even races with all the politics involved. I think the best thing for the closed course loops like parker and the silver state is to run the "slower" classes on saturday and run the unlimited classes sunday. I know those little towns wouldn't complain about the two day racing event. I mean look at the mint you spend 5 days hyping it up and then race everybody in one day. And some classes only get the Mint 200? If the trucks started early sunday. they would be done by noon anyways. I think it is win win for everybody.

[dkiewicz]

Originally Posted by LM Industires

I read everything over at race dezert. I havent personally been in a race car during a race but I have pitted for some. Also I know Casey and his crew and have seen what he has to go through to get the race put on. Its amazing there are even races with all the politics involved. I think the best thing for the closed course loops like parker and the silver state is to run the "slower" classes on saturday and run the unlimited classes sunday. I know those little towns wouldn't complain about the two day racing event. I mean look at the mint you spend 5 days hyping it up and then race everybody in one day. And some classes only get the Mint 200? If the trucks started early sunday. they would be done by noon anyways. I think it is win win for everybody.

Won't work Brock, that makes sense....It's also a boon for the UTV's because it might even open up a stock or sportsmen class that is even more affordable for us poor 99%'s..... Just sayin....