A letter from the Govt. about Johnson Valley....

ChristianFrazier

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He didn't say anything wrong. My point was not that I'm right, or anyone else for that matter. If you would spend the time to research the links here and elsewhere, this isn't a trivial subject. It has been hashed over numerous times and it has more skeletons than a mass grave in Bosnia.

This is a touchy subject because if you realize that 2/3 of this area are no longer for our use, what are we being given back in return, nothing. This means more folks crowded into smaller areas and a very violent and deadly situation is generated. These off road vehicles need a lot of space. If you've been doing this for awhile I'm sure you know someone who has been seriously hurt or killed. Putting thousands of people closer together is not conducive to a safe riding experience.

The other piece of this is the greedy bastards that are in the senate and congress that have thousands if not millions of acres bordering these areas and tend to make a nice personal profit from all of the
solar panel etc... opportunities that are arising from industry. This isn't just about the military, it's much, much more.

If you don't get it, it's cool. I never said anyone was wrong. We are all entitled to our opinions, but we don't have to agree on them either.

Speak on and please take the time to read what has already transpired, I think you'll see a little different picture painted.

BTW, I am also a vet. I DO support our troops. This is a nonsensical land grab that has very little merit, but in the eyes of a select few individuals that really don't care what anyone else thinks.

Peace out....
There is nothing like disagree with you.. You have shared some key points and have own opinion.. Love the way you have mentioned the details
 
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dkiewicz

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Well ain't this a hoot. Got this email from Ms. Feinstien today. I see she's right on top of the subject matter. I wonder where this was cut and pasted from....:rolleyes:

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Thank you for contacting me to express your concerns about the Marine Corps' efforts to acquire land within the Johnson Valley Off-Highway Vehicle (OHV) Area. I appreciate the time you took to write, and I welcome the opportunity to respond.

I strongly believe that conservation, renewable energy development, recreation, and military priorities can and must co-exist in the California Desert. Following several years of studies, the Department of Defense proposed an expansion of the Air Ground Combat Center at Twentynine Palms to accommodate Marine Corps training requirements. After considering a number of alternatives, including a westward expansion that would have required the use of all 188,000 acres of Johnson Valley, the Marines agreed to consider and ultimately adopt a more limited option that I proposed (Alternative 6). Under this proposal, a portion of Johnson Valley is preserved for recreational uses.

In working with Representative Paul Cook (R-CA) and Marine Commandant General James F. Amos, we were able to improve upon that basic framework to come to an agreement that was included in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2014 (Public Law 113-66).

This agreement balances the training needs of the Marine Corps with recreational priorities. It preserves approximately 100,000 acres of Johnson Valley as the "Johnson Valley Off-Highway Vehicle Recreation Area" and also allows the Marine Corps to expand Twentynine Palms Marine Base to a portion of Johnson Valley known as an area of shared use. This shared use area consists of 53,231 acres and will be under the jurisdiction of the United States Navy for 60 days per year for Marine Corps training. For the remaining days of the year, the shared use area will be under the jurisdiction of the Department of the Interior for Off-Highway Vehicles and other recreational uses.

I am proud that the final agreement will preserve much of Johnson Valley for recreation and permanently designate a portion of Johnson Valley for OHV recreation. You may also be interested to know that the "California Desert Protection Act of 2011" (S. 138), a bill I introduced in 2011 and plan to reintroduce this Congress, creates even more areas designated for recreation.

Please know that I appreciate hearing your support for maintaining OHV recreation in Johnson Valley, and I will keep your views in mind should the Senate further debate OHV recreation areas in the coming months.

Once again, thank you for writing. If you have any additional questions or concerns, please contact my Washington, D.C. office at (202) 224-3841, or visit my website at www.feinstein.senate.gov. Best regards.

[FONT=&quot]Sincerely yours,


Dianne Feinstein
United States Senator"[/FONT]​
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